when you think about reform, welfare reform, tax reform, it happened at the state level and local level. while we need to change the climate here in washington. at the same time, i can look around this table and say you won, first governor ever to win a recalled bid, a recalled call. and you are in a very conservative state, in a conservative spot. you are in a conservative state, so you all were kind of fine, and you still lost, republicans lost wisconsin, republicans lost virginia and republicans lost the latino vote. so there is a huge disconnect here, not just for you, but for voters. >> i would like the rest of the panel to say this as well. even in wisconsin, just like every democrat has since 1984, the same year i not only won a recall election by a higher percentage two years ago, we took the state senate back, you see that now about half the states in america have republican majorities, more than half have republican government no, sir. local leaders in our states and local governments, they're being relevant, they're being hospital mystic, they're being a courageous. >> why we